Dear Anti-Federalists: These are my feelings exactly. This is a very important message. Even though I would rather revive the missing 13th amendment or write new constitutions without legislatures and bring back the Grand Juries and Common Law Trial Juries, I really agree with what is being said here. Far too many people are spinning their wheels with words. We need to build a new framework of government, a real Republic if we want freedom. please join in. sincerely, gene karl SIDE-TRACKED BY WORDS (Response to JAIL Reader) Dear James: I hope I'm not going to become embroiled in a nit-picking debate with you by responding to your message below. Let me just say that those who appear to be apologists for the judicial system by pointing the finger at certain words, terminology, phraseology, etc. are, in my humble opinion, doing a disservice to those of us who are trying to find a solution to the real problem-- establishing a system of accountability of the judiciary to the People. Rather than be distracted by the term "pro se" or any other legal jargon that may mean something other than what is intended, or other than what is clearly evident from the facts and circumstances taking place, my focus is on the general corruption that is running rampant in our judicial system across this country. There is no doubt that I am an individual, a nonlawyer, who is entitled to due process of law as set forth on the books in order to obtain redress of my grievances. The individual (whatever he is called by legal jargon) doesn't get past the due process (procedural) stage. The courts block him at the pleading stage in violation of procedural law, disregarding the facts and substantive law being claimed by the individual in his pleading. (I won't even call him "plaintiff" for purposes of this discussion, for fear of running into another terminology glitch). The individual nonlawyer is being routinely deprived of his First Amendment (I won't say "right") protection of petition for redress of grievances in our courts by arbitrary edict, without evidence to support such edict. (The judge says it and that alone makes it 'law'.) Words from a judge's mouth, or by the stroke of his pen, doesn't ipso facto make it "law." But that's the way it goes in our system today-- just sheer unbridled power that is destroying our society. This shouldn't be happening in this country! James, we have to get beyond "words." Let's deal with the real problem. I didn't intend to say this much, and I hope I don't regret it. There are a lot more words here for you to parse, if that's your inclination-- and I hope not. There's a much bigger problem controlling this country on which we, as the People, (society in America if you will) must concentrate. Let's not get side-tracked. Ron Branson - subscribe or remove > ron1@access1.net www.jail4judges.org - America's last and ONLY hope! JUDICIAL ACCOUNTABILITY INITIATIVE LAW. JAIL crosses all political party lines and will become this nation's hottest issue - bar none! Support JAIL @ P.O. Box 207, N. Hwd., CA 91603 "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams <><